Project Build: sc2020 - MK3 G60 - By sdezego

By stevegolf
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7 minute(s) of a 144 minute read

9-4-2006

An excellent question really. Especially, since you need to do a special board tweak for MSnS to accommodate VW's Dist Hall Sensor.

The orig plan was to Build MS, Config and install it on my existing G60 on Dist, get it tuned and run it for a while. Basically, get it all ready to throw on the new motor and then have to just tweak the maps rather than work out any bugs on the new motor. Still the plan actually, but since I finished the MS build a few months ago and the motor is well under way, the idea is making less sense.

Also, I already had all of the stuff for ABA Dist and the only thing I needed was the Cam gear and a 20 minute IM Shaft mod.

The past week or so, I have been seriously rethinking this though and may go 60-2 Coil pack right off. I may even setup a 60-2 on my current PG to get it all ready. I go back and forth.

Thanks! You will definitely see it. Been driving it alot lately and enjoying it. Realistically, the motor will not go in for a few months as I am not rushing it. LOTS of stuff to work out between now and then.

Among other things, I am thinking about the gearbox as well. Peloquin at the bare min, but need to sell some more parts to pay for that. I have also been thinking about an 02M lately That is just a matter of money, not effort.

Shawn 


September 05, 2006

Here is what I will be using to take care of the waste.

SuperSprint 16V mk2 header modified with a 20v Flange and some gentle persuasion to reorient the headers.


September 15, 2006

Been out of town and busy, so no major progress except for spending more money and more circular decisions regarding ignition.

I have some 16V IM Shaft parts coming Tues, so I will make a Final decision on Dist vs Coil Pack (or COP). If you want to know what I think was the final clincher, you may laugh. I will be running the Timing belt guards and the lower AEB guard will not fit on the 52T IM Shaft Gear for Distrubuter (obviously since the AEB uses a 43T gear like the 9a). It is just one of those things you don't think of until you go to do it. Also, the 43T gear will turn the Oil pump faster, which can't be a bad thing I just want to take the ABA and 9a oil pumps apart to compare and make sure this is nothing I am missing (other than the forked vs splined shaft). I am almost certain the gears are the same size, but want to verify reliefs and such.

I did get my Vr Lenses and Bezels installed on my ECodes though. All I can say is Flush! The G60 Ecode gaps and steps from Vr grill to fenders really annoyed me. I also have a set of Vr Fogs coming for the RS Front that will house the Precision FMIC.

Mock pic of the head and belt on (now all subject to change). I also, did not make the tensioner mod yet to affix it (since the stock 20v uses the hydro damper and relay roller).


September 21, 2006

I had a few questions about how I was going to modify the 20v Tensioner, so here is my off the cuff ideas.

1st - If you are not running a Dist and plan on running the 16v/aeb IM shaft 43T gear, then you can simply use the 16v "fixed" type tensioner with the 157T custom belt and call it a day. No need to read on in this post.

If you are running Dist (Which I was going to), you have to run the only available "correct Tooth belt" at 158T (159T would be perfect) which will not fit with the 16V tensioner. You must use the 20V variant which allows you to use the 158T belt.

Here are two ideas that I had for mod'ing the 20V tensioner to make it "Fixed" instead of the hydro self-adjusting. Even though I am not running dist, I may still use the 20v type pictured and "affix it" as shown.

Option #1

Option #2


October 11, 2006

sorry, I have been very busy here on the text reading your updates and googling, thus no time to work on mine

Actually I have made some progress of sorts. I ordered a crap load of misc parts, factory bolts, studs, elec connectors etc that should be here any day.

In addition, I took the 9a and ABA oil pumps apart to compare the internals, and as suspected, everything is interchangeable. The only difference is the Splined drive shaft on the 9a as opposed to the Forked one on the ABA. I will show some pics just for the heck of it.

So the definite plan "now" is to run the 60-2 trigger on MSnS-e as opposed to Dist. So, I am going to swap out the Modified ABA IM shaft and Cog for the 9a. Didn't put the oil pump in or pan on yet, so this is no biggie.

I have also been trying to decipher whether the 60-2 pickup I have from the ABA that I have will play nicely with MS. Seems to be some conflicting info out there and I don't own a scope.

I have also been doing some wiring or sorts Hooking up a new Tig in my garage and honing my skills. Lots of stuff to put this to good use on!

Shawn


October 11, 2006

You have pictured an internal Waterpump and a short block and therfore there are numerous OEM VW belts. For the ABA (Tall Block) Running Dist, there is no belt that will fit using the 16V tensioner (OEM or custom cut). 159T would be perfect and would allow the use of the 16V tensioner, but there is no such belt. So, you must use a 158T which requires the use of the modified 20v tensioner

Edit: No Belt with the Correct Tooth Profile. Nice setup BTW!

S


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