OK. So my entire ATP turbo kit is here: logical first steps??? TIPS?? by nater

By stevegolf
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12 minute(s) of a 89 minute read

5-19-2004

To be honest, I thought it was the best way to go...if I bought their i/c with piping I knew that it would be 'close'....

It wasn't too bad I suppose.

I had a very large oil leak coming out of my oil filter housing that I had to tear the entire front end of the car off to get to today...

But it's fixed. Seems I didn't torque down my oil feed brass fitting quite enough.

While I was in there I used teflon tape (making very sure not to interfere with any oil passages) on every single fitting and torqued them down very well.

Not a drop of oil came out while it idled for over 30 mins tonight .

On sat I get the exhaust done and AM DEF GETTING THE DUMP TUBE REROUTED b/c the damn thing is LOUD AS BALLS .

Not my cup o tea.

But shes up and running.


May 23, 2004

Some *final* pics of the car "up and running" in my driveway...

Looks a bit cleaner than those 'other' pics I was posting up here in the last couple weeks .

Jeff and I will be tuning first weekend of June so she'll be running smooth as a baby's behind then ! 

And a pic of the car...looking good today!!!


June 02, 2004

But it's a long story. I had it in this muffler shop where this guy really knows what he's doing (was there in and out for a solid week since my last post) and I kept getting the runaround and dealt with it (b/c they were going to give me a cash deal a serious break on the price if I paid the guy personally instead of paying midas)...

Turns out the guy was ready to quit and ended up calling in sick like 4 days in a row. I couldn't get a ride there to pick up the car until just this weekend....

Damn...

So, I've still got my open WG with no dump tube (loud as hell ) and a ****load of ugly crappy black soot in my engine compartment.

So,

I'm happy to take pics but know I'll be flamed for having an ugly engine bay....

Which is the only reason why I was holding off.

Ppl wanted "money shots" and this is NOT money.

Plus,

I'm writing from my wifes computer. Mine is out for service as I blew my hard drive and lost EVERYTHING.

Including the software to load in my camera's pics...and don't want to load it into my wifes computer right now.

I'll have the computer back by the beginning of next week.

If any of you guys need a pic of the vac lines immedietly (ie. in the middle of your project) I'd be happy to find a way to get a pic to you - just let me know.

Otherwise, I'm gonna wait until I get all my isht in order, k?

Car is still fast as uckF!!!!!! I love it!

Full boost at 1/4 throttle and at 3200rpms!!!! Holy isht! I had to put my foot all the way down to get ANY boost with the s/c!

And by the way guys...

Thanks for your interest. I haven't forgotten about this post and making it "complete" it's just that I've hit some 'snags' and it's not like they are keeping me from driving the car so I'm working on fixing them slowly but surely.

Trust me, this post will be updated for SURE!!!

Thanks for reminding me guys.


June 16, 2004

I had an appointment for tuning that I had to cancel due to rain during the first weekend of June (can't tune in the rain for a couple reasons)...

We've got a def appointment to tune my car (jeff and I) on our trip out to Midwest Massiv in Columbus, OH June 25th.

right now, the car is running real rich (by design from Jeff) just to get me up to him so we can tune...but she's still fast!!!! Real fast.

I can't wait until we tune it and get the real power .

Trust me, when things change I'll post up.

That includes finally getting my dump tube welded back into the dp (next week). I'm pulling my turbo/dp/wg out tonight so I can get it welded....


June 24, 2004

UPDATE:

Had my WG re-routed back into the DP. After a few ppl told me that it really didn't matter much that the WG be close to the Turbo outlet I figured it would be easiest to just have a straight pipe welded from the WG to the DP. Yes, it's close to the turbo but I doubt with all the exhaust coming out that the "puny" WG is gonna mess anything up.

Can I say QUIET???? Holy Schnikies...

I love it. She rips and barely makes any noise except for the turbo whistle and the BOV!

I was a bit disappointed in the welding job as the guy was a bit anxious (it seems) and may have gotten the parts too hot and seemed to have warped it a bit, I had to gingerly put things back together slowly tightening down everything in sequence...what a PITA.

But I'm done now, and I'll be meeting up with Jeff Atwood in a few hours on our way to the Midwest Massiv show to tune the car. She'll be totally done this weekend.

Those engine bay pics that someone asked for? I'll get them up here soon once I get the engine clean. now there is no WG black smoke being blown in. You should see my engine compartment...holy smokes!

Here ya go:


June 26, 2004

As promised I told you I'd give you an update on this question you have. I also promised pics but I don't have them up yet (will do soon).

I'm here at Midwest Massiv right now and I've finally gotten my WG plumbed back into the DP AND threw in Jeff's 30# software.

The car is a freakin' rocket! Smooth as silk part throttle, smooth as silk WOT...

Car drives itself in 3rd gear through the parking lot at idle (no foot on gas) with not a buck to be had.

No misfires AT ALL (no misfire codes and no blinking light).

Rock solid idle. Quiet motor with an incredible roar at WOT and a nice burble around town at part throttle.

And as for your Q about the difference b/w turbo and s/c...

The power is much different. It's all in what you want, but I wanted that turbo VR6 and my VF blower just wasn't up to it (no dual idler pulley available for that blower like there is for the v1/v2's).

Amazing.

Jeff's tuning is incredible on this car...

For those running a vr6 turbo, if you haven't contacted c2/jeff atwood about their tuning then you gotta do it now (from what I hear there aren't a bunch of Turbo VR6's out there anymore that don't have it - unless they've got stand-alone)...

Anyway, I'll post pics and a dyno plot (pics first, dyno is soon).

And for good measure, a pic of Jeff Atwood and my car just after we cleaned 'em at midwest massiv (thanks Jeff for the awesome tuning, man )...

Does this conclude the "how-to"???

Oh, I'll post up my complete parts list on what I used for this turbo when I get a chance.


October 30, 2004

So, I've received my 8.5:1 head spacer from c2. Thanks chris.

Here it is and ready to go in!!!

I'll update as I progress with the project.


November 10, 2004

Motor pulled:

Here's some pics for those that care (but I guess it's all part of the process of building a Turbo vr6 ):

I marked EVERYTHING with masking tape and put EVERY SINGLE BOLT/NUT/WASHER into a ziplock bag and marked it with permenant ink for easy installation (I hope ).

I took plenty more pics for my own reference but mostly of various connections, vacuum lines, etc...but I won't bore you with them.


November 18, 2004

Ok,

Valve cover is off...head comes off on Sunday (damn, I forgot those large head bolts are the 12point snap-on's)...

She looks nice and clean inside, eh? 


November 27, 2004

Not on hold anymore...

Going 3L (hopefull) courtesy of schimmel performance.

Here's where I'm at now (pistons out of block):


November 29, 2004

Ok,

It's a good day today. Talked to Schimmel (schimmelperformance.com I think) and he'll be doing my motor up for me (3L full bottom end rebuild). It should be done w/in the week b/c he's got a block ready to go.

One HORRIBLE pic of the head in my work truck (still has lower intake manny on) and a good pic of the block...

I'll keep you posted .

Well,

Add a full head rebuild to my project.

Just so some of you guys that are reading this know...

It's not just buying the turbo/kit...sometimes it's about everything else you end up doing afterwards. 


December 12, 2004

Got the motor back.

Here's what I got done:

Schimmel Performance 3L long block complete rebuild with 10.0:1 Forged JE Pistons, 8.5:1 C2 head spacer (so I'm around 8.3:1 CR), 3angle valve job, new valves, seals, guides...

Timing chains redone (refreshed as they were in good shape, new guides and seals).

Transmission:

Total rebuild including a new gear selector (I literally BROKE it in pieces but it stayed together in the trans!!!!) and a new second gear...and new seals, etc...

Added a Peloquin differential in there too!!!

While I was in there I bought a Schimmel Performance HD clutch (6 puck, modified pressure plate for 25% more clamping force...good to 400whp).

I think that's it...

Here's a couple pics of the motor when I got it home yesterday. I've already got most of the accessories on and she's about ready to go in the car. 


December 14, 2004

Update:

Got the motor in tonight. Should be finishing up tomorrow or Thursday for sure.


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