1930 Ford Sheetmetal Restoration
Compliments of Flop @ aaca.org
Hey guys new to posting to the AACA. i am 26 years old from Pittsburgh PA.
This was a customers car. He wants it all stock. Just figured you guys would enjoy some sheetmetal work and the fiasco of new patch panels that i am going through. All the sheetmetal work is tig welded and as close to metal finished as possible.
needs typical patch panels but man is this car solid
needs some sub frame work
gotta fix this hole.seems like it was made with a chisel
tight gaps are important with a tig welder
see what i mean by tight?! see that little slit
this is gonna be a pain !!!
the ol tape and bondo trick
filling some random holes
some holes in the visor
some kinda mess from ages ago....
and we are finished up with the roof.
my guess was an antenna?
more random taped up holes i found.
some more damage
a few marks left from the stud gun
these are gonna be no fun. body line doesnt match to save its life
heres another poorly made non fitting heater hole patch panel.
the mess im working with
notice the extra 1/8 inch of bead
the blue line is how wide it should be.i hammered the hell outa the area on the other side of the blue line to flatten it out so the beads matched
the bottom piece was really no fun
continuing the firewall heater hole
next im onto the patch panels...
Tex i dont have a die that big for my bead roller so we opted to modify the patch
wheel well time. customer decided to put the patch panels we had in for the wheel wells. we had a big debate with all the model a supply house who has the best wheel well patches. these were from snyders in ohio and found out brookville supplies all of these patches. the body lines are no where close to stock but this isnt a points restoration. just a real nice driver.
trim trim trim
mess mess mess
subframe cracked and thin
cut it out!
got a nice tight fit
didnt get a pic of the bottom trimmed down
onto the wheel well next
wheel well patch sittin in place
some primer on the subframe and some weld-through primer on the lower part of the patch because i dont know if the patch gets spot welded to the subframe once ya wrap it around or not.
tacked in .
i usually dont work with that many tacks but for this one it seemed impossible not to. there were alot of variations in where the patch panel wanted to sit and where the og wheel well was so a ton of tacks it was
thanks Ben .thanks Pat. been doing this about 3 years now finally starting to get the word of mouth out about the shop. its a one man show so i can only do so much . but in time i think it will grow! some of the work isnt up the AACAs alley but this was and i figured you guys would like to check out the metal work on the Model A.
more subframe rusty-ness
new piece of subframe with some shrinker stretcher action to mimic the stock piece
sitting in place
finished up the sub-frame welded up and primed. it was a fun piece to make with the curve in it
this quarter was pretty tweaked. Hard to see if the pic it took a good hit at one point
file hammer repeat to infinity
came out pretty nice the body line still need work
the quality of the panels hahahah
and we are tacked in
for some reason i cant find the pic of the finished passenger wheel well
but on to the decklid
someone had a dance on this thing!!
most of this was stud gun work mostly all the dents were behind braces. and some shrinking hammer here and there
about half way through
its not 100 percent metal finished but its pretty damn nice in my book
got the patch panels from macs . JUNK! same as the other ones just on a better piece of metal.
so it needed more subframe work nothing fancy or pretty here
heres the og piece of body line i have to re weld in after fixing the subframe.gonna keep as much of this around as possible because aparently it is impossible to remake on a patch panel .
im making my own panels now. so far i have a much nicer start then what i got as a patch panel. i used a piece of 20 guage for the first run just to see what i could make it do and i like the results. switich to 18 gauge for the final product.
i used my beefed up harbor freight bead roller some and conduit to get the crown. wish i woulda started working on these in the begining of the day instead of messing with the patch panels.
i made this up in about 20 mins and quite happy once i get the hard line from the step die out i think ill be good to go
you can see i started to get the hard line out on the edge. pretty excited about this!!
stock .mine.repop panel
alllll taacked in finally!!!
gotta do the front edge over since i couldnt make a nice break because of the bottom bead.
when i made the patch panel there was no way i could use the sheetmetal break to get a clean edge because of the body line at the bottom so i had to cut the edge off and replace it with a piece i made on the break.
where a stud gun really come in handy. metal brace and wood in the way .
thanks durrant! you are right about the body shops now a days seems like most cave and pave and dont fix the metal.
thanks dictator. alot of patience and knowing why the metal is doing what its doing and alot of knowing when to walk away when you are frustrated and starting again in the morning. you really cant rush welding
thanks bleach!! i taught myself mig when i was around 15 and got into tig about a year and a half ago .but what an amazing weld tig is on sheetmetal compared to the mig .
thanks corvanti i appreciate the link!!
heres the last of the body
just about finished up with the body today besides bending the edges over the subframe on the new patches.
the passenger quarter was the last piece.
really solid but the break where it wrapped under neath was gone
made a new piece for it
couldnt figure out how to make it in one long piece so 2 pieces it was
just about done except for the edge it still needs some more smoothing where it wraps into the wheel well
and we are just about done with the body!!
heres the dash
extra holes in the dash that gotta disappear
thank "B" picked up the 32 Packard fenders from Ron yesterday and a windshield frame!
i did this car last winter hence the snow
of course it went to the sandblaster on the snowiest day of the year
and this is what it looked like when it came back and headed back to its owner
this is just in epoxy primer no body filler
here is a short video of the car on youtube as well
bunch of fenders next!
i didnt like the patch that was in there so i put a new one in
about 3 more inches to go
broken motor mount
heres some more model a work
broken motor mount. guess 80 or so yeras of service took its toll.
new pan had to be put in since the old one has seen better days
45 spot welds later
thanks alot guys!!
heres some more pics to give you some tips .i found with model a patch panels they are easier to make myself then mess around with the pure garbage that is out there for these cars.
some work i am doing on a 30 roadster
heres the start! dug inot the driver side cowl today
found a mix of cement and some red oxide filler of sorts
cut out the mess and found a solid area to work with
welded up the inner piece and seam sealed it up
i made the body line on the harbor freight bead roller with the step die and some work to give it crown . way easier to make your own in my opinion then mess with patch panels
this crack is really throwing the alignment of the door off on the bottom. its on the top rail you could say on the quarter panel
craack closed.makes the door fit waaaay tighter to the body
ground a bunch more useless red oxide out of the door now its loking like a nice solid start!
figured out why the door was hangin out at the bottom
all welded up
some filler. but i would much rather have some well used filler then rust
half finished ...the rest of the filler.
gonna have to pull the door to get around the hinges and pull the lock assembly to get around the handle hole
the next mess
tex riv .custom work is being done to the caddy for a customer.
will do wrench!
hahahah send me a message willys we can talk
onto the passenger side
this side is way more solid in the subrail dept
some cement and red oxide type filler
sandblasted primed and seamsealed the few pin holes i welded up
begining of the patch
after the step
heres some more work on a deluxe phaeton !!
some extra holes in the firewall!!
firewall from the back smoothed out
pan i fixed up sitting in place
a side shot
heres a truck of daves as of well
heres the phaeton in primer
here is daves 24000 orig mile coupe. it has 28000 on it now .original paint on the body .fenders and aprons have been repainted. everything else as original.aaca 1st place in 87 in the original class.